almost definitely a repost but eh

  • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    15 hours ago

    we don’t “wait” for a revolution nor do we expect it to magically fix anything.

    but i guess it’s easier to be ignorant than to at least learn what leftism even is.

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      you don’t, and that’s good, but that doesn’t make it universal. as for the split between these 2 types, idk so I won’t even guess

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        true, but it’s ok to take the needed time though. life gets in the way, people work long hours, and helping build a movement is a lot of work.

        i’m sure aspiring MLs have this at the back of their minds, because practicing ones are always pretty insistent on telling people to organize and adjust expectations.

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      14 hours ago

      Nah I’ve studied political science at the graduate level and this is pretty much spot on.

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    "and if you don’t live by MY interpretation of some dead guy’s beliefs, you are wrong and are worse than the enemy*

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    This is literally just almost every terminally online ML lol

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    You forgot to mention both have accelerationists willing to make people’s lives worse to hasten the Rapture Revolution.

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    Especially over the past few years, this viewpoint seems to dominate over so many leftist spaces, and I believe it’s part of what led to Trump winning the election. I don’t particularly like the Democrats either, but so many refuse to vote for anything other than an impossible overnight jump to socialism.

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      How many would “vote with their dollar” if $==🧨, though? 🤷🏼‍♂️

      The Rapture (or whatever no-effort salvation flavor you prefer) will not be televised.

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    The Antichrist walks among us, wearing a spray tan and a toupee. We must use our second amendment rights to throw off our oppressors and create the kingdom of Elohim on earth.

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    Great take. We must ask ourselves: what happens the day after the revolution?

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      Well if we look at China, Cuba, the USSR, Vietnam, Laos, you get invaded/bombed by America.

      But also continue to work really hard, but now your labor goes to bringing yourself and a billion others out of poverty instead of further expanding the power of the bourgeoisie.

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      1rpd/1440=0.00069rpm

      Nice.

      To idle along nicely, we need to reach about 800 revolutions per minute. So we need to increase our number of revolutions by about x1,100,000

      (And I realise now I’ve inadvertently worked out that if I left my car idling for 24 hours, the engine would go through over 1.1million revolutions. Cool!)

    • SadSadSatellite @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Really, if there is a sudden turning point, where Eat The Rich becomes common thought, how long does it last? Is it over in a few days? Is it a literal class war going on for years? If the bottom 50 decides to take out the top 5, how long can it go on for?

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        Hey, when you’re 22 you know everything but your brain still hasn’t fully matured and you don’t have time for that kind of stuff!

        Death to capitalist oppressors! Let’s fuck!

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    Hate to say it, but I’d argue that this particular leftist sub-group can be ever worse than Christians. At least on paper, Christians are supposed to want to convert sinners and non-believers, and are supposed to work to do outreach to help people explicitly undeserving. The Christian enemy of the devil is effectively an abstract. Yes, there’s the anti-lgbt+ bigots, but in my experience they are a minority despite their incessant loudness and overwhelming presence in the public eye.

    This particular revolution worshipping sub-group of leftists though? They appear to overwhelmingly just want death and suffering for their “enemies”. They have no plans to attempt to convert people and many are actively against even trying.

    I can’t tell you how much heat I’ve taken for suggesting that (at best) ignoring all the fuckers that voted for Trump and not trying to find any way to build relationships so you can turn them is a losing strategy.

    It makes me sick that so very many people see violent and complete revolution where somehow they never have to deal with opposition voices ever again afterwards (read: purges and re-education camps, ideas I’ve seen positive unironic support for from this group a shocking amount) as a more viable and desiriable outcome than trying to understand and care for their misguided neighbors and family so they can turn them.

    Just because your plan isn’t technically genocide due to it falling on lines of political ideology doesn’t make it less completely fucked in the head and reprehensible.

    If your wishes for the future include “We have to be baddies so we can completely erase the worse baddies from existence and make our utopia” then I strongly suggest you need to reevaluate just about fucking everything in your life and ideals.

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      That’s why they narrowed it to evangelical Christians. There is still your argument that they will try to convert you first, but boy if you don’t, it’s the same hate. I’d say the leftist hate is at least honest and doesn’t try to camouflage it with “love the sinner” lies and cherrypicking from a guide book.

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      You mean, the paper that was inked to “allow” divorce & execution of a certain Anglo king’s wives, or the “original” low-effort patchwork plagiarism of any/all folklore the ruling class could scrape together? Either way, that’s some ironclad foundational document, there. 😝🤌🏼

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    And not a single one is doing anything to actually revolt, just sitting online talking shit on people who are actively doing things because “incrementalism is useless, we need a revolution”.

    Sorry creating lemmy isn’t starting the revolution, getting together a small amount of people online to talk about a parallel societal formation isn’t starting a revolution, being civically inactive is not starting a revolution, buying a bunch of guns is not starting a revolution, talking about moving away from corporate tracking tools is not starting a revolution, switching from US to Chinese propaganda is not starting a revolution. As lame as all the gravy seal militias in the US are, they are numerous steps ahead on the starting of a revolution.