And these are the behaviors I have seen so many people in online leftist spaces call useless, and incrementalist, as they are not preparing to actually revolt, they are working within the legal framework given to them by the capitalists. It seems you and I have a more closely aligned idea of change than a large amount of people who are on .ml. I also highly doubt most of these people will be able to deal with the violence then wish to incite with a revolution. I know how it is to kill, people, so I don’t tell people they should.
The ones you posted have had their efforts mocked because they operate within the framework capitalists give them, and are not actually revolutionary. I have watched it happen, many there seem to think if there isn’t violence, then nothing is happening. Also, no, I do not apologize for authoritarian governments, regardless of their alignment with capitalism. Nor do I support censorship of criticisms of places because they aren’t aligned with NATO.
Yes, when you put a name to it people say they like them. When you say you are doing a specific things organizations like that support those efforts are mocked. Unless you want this to be a case of “don’t believe your lying eyes”.
I’m really confused what you’re referring to, most of the people I’ve seen shitting on PSL weren’t on .ml, but rather seemed to be Democrats mad that they ran as a third party for President.
refer to my later comment, it isn’t the organization name, it is a reaction to talking about doing the individual things, things they are doing, and being told it is worthless incrementalism
You’re being a little too vague for me to follow, what ‘individual things’ are you referring to getting called worthless incrementalism? You do sound like you have an axe to grind though I’m not sure about what
I have been told, and have seen others get told, that they are wasting their time with incrementalist pipe dreams, when discussing actual things we are doing, things that that organizations like the PSL advocate. Most often those names have a .ml home instance, and this is ignoring the known trolls who are on their 1000th account on .world just trying to start fights. This happens regularly enough that I have all but stopped talking about it because I don’t want to have yet another person trying to argue that I need to be killing MAGA cultists, and blowing up infrastructure, or I am just another one of them. It became mind numbing. It did greatly reduce when I moved to an instance that blocks hexbear, which is probably why I have since been noticing the .ml names.
I have no way of making a genuine comparison because I don’t know what orgs you’re actually talking about. PSL and FRSO are overall seen very positively on all 3 of the Marxist-aligned instances. Further, neither Hex nor Lemmy.ml nor Grad advocate random adventurist terrorism.
Most revolutionary orgs don’t outwardly organize for reasons you suggest. Those orgs are still revolutionary.
And these are the behaviors I have seen so many people in online leftist spaces call useless, and incrementalist, as they are not preparing to actually revolt, they are working within the legal framework given to them by the capitalists. It seems you and I have a more closely aligned idea of change than a large amount of people who are on .ml. I also highly doubt most of these people will be able to deal with the violence then wish to incite with a revolution. I know how it is to kill, people, so I don’t tell people they should.
I’m not sure what orgs you’re talking about, because I align more with most people on Lemmy.ml. Maybe you actually do too?
The ones you posted have had their efforts mocked because they operate within the framework capitalists give them, and are not actually revolutionary. I have watched it happen, many there seem to think if there isn’t violence, then nothing is happening. Also, no, I do not apologize for authoritarian governments, regardless of their alignment with capitalism. Nor do I support censorship of criticisms of places because they aren’t aligned with NATO.
No, they are not mocked by users on Lemmy.ml. They are broadly supported by communists. I think you’re inventing something to be mad at.
Yes, when you put a name to it people say they like them. When you say you are doing a specific things organizations like that support those efforts are mocked. Unless you want this to be a case of “don’t believe your lying eyes”.
I’m really confused what you’re referring to, most of the people I’ve seen shitting on PSL weren’t on .ml, but rather seemed to be Democrats mad that they ran as a third party for President.
refer to my later comment, it isn’t the organization name, it is a reaction to talking about doing the individual things, things they are doing, and being told it is worthless incrementalism
You’re being a little too vague for me to follow, what ‘individual things’ are you referring to getting called worthless incrementalism? You do sound like you have an axe to grind though I’m not sure about what
I think you should discuss more, this isn’t the case in my experience.
I have been told, and have seen others get told, that they are wasting their time with incrementalist pipe dreams, when discussing actual things we are doing, things that that organizations like the PSL advocate. Most often those names have a .ml home instance, and this is ignoring the known trolls who are on their 1000th account on .world just trying to start fights. This happens regularly enough that I have all but stopped talking about it because I don’t want to have yet another person trying to argue that I need to be killing MAGA cultists, and blowing up infrastructure, or I am just another one of them. It became mind numbing. It did greatly reduce when I moved to an instance that blocks hexbear, which is probably why I have since been noticing the .ml names.
I have no way of making a genuine comparison because I don’t know what orgs you’re actually talking about. PSL and FRSO are overall seen very positively on all 3 of the Marxist-aligned instances. Further, neither Hex nor Lemmy.ml nor Grad advocate random adventurist terrorism.