That’s easy.
Reopen the sub and put a sticky post with info on how to join kbin/lemmy and encouraging users to give it a try and join the fediverse alternative sub you’ve created.
Then if you post any content- do it on the fediverse, and if you post it to Reddit just make it a link post to the fediverse page that has the content. Optionally disable comments or filter them.
Reddit is already making liberal use of AI bots to post and reply, I suspect they will use them to moderate soon enough. After a while, it will just be bots talking to bots (self-generated content) and I think Reddit management will be fine with that as long as Wall Street doesn’t notice or care.
It seems lemmy links were removed from r/Piracy’s sidebar (maybe by the mods, possibly by admins), but their pinned post still has links to both their own piracy instance and the piracy community on lemmy.ml. So maybe pinned posts are safe.
All the more reason to keep mentioning them in regular comments then - they might be able to moderate stickied posts themselves but they can’t read through every comment on every subreddit.
Why not just program a bot to crawl their site looking for any string that says “lemmy” or “l e m m y” or what have you? I’d think it’s be easy for them to do, the bigger question is what kind of backlash they would get for it.
I’d be more worried about martyring lemmy on Reddit which would just force more traffic over here imo.
Or maybe they dont think Lemmy is actually a threat.
Twitter blocked links Mastadon for a hot minute calling them spam or unsafe or something. IIRC they backed down after a couple of days. Reddit has already been getting shit press for the last couple of weeks, tech journos are watching this all unfold closely, is Reddit dumb enough to take an action that is blatantly censorship and anticompetitive? It would be totally unspinable.
If they do that, it’ll tell you a lot about reddits thinking here. Spez current position is that the people complaining are a small minority and this will all blow over soon. If Reddit really believes that, then they best course of action is to let the complainers post their Lemmy/Kbin links, avoid a fresh round of bad press, and the lemmy/Kbin users will be gone in a couple of weeks and the reddit user base will remain largely intact. If Reddit views the risk of a mass migration to be a real and existential threat to their business, despite what they are saying publicly, then blocking Lemmy/Kbin links would make sense as a last ditch effort to keep their user base of casual users ignorant of popular alternatives, bad press being a necessary cost worth paying to try to retain the user base they need to sell for their ipo. All for that assumes Reddit is behaving rationally though, which Spez has shown isn’t a safe assumption.
Agree that rationality is not a safe assumption. None of this has been rational- it feels like Spez is having a temper tantrum (as would a small child) and those around him are desperately trying to channel it into professional-ish actions.
Also makes sense if Spez is Ellen Pao 2.0- board decides unpopular changes need to be made, so they pay Spez extra to do 120% of what they want and be the fall guy. He goes nuts for a while, then resigns, and is replaced with some suit who looks good on TV and has a bit of social media cred. That guy then says all the right things to the community and walks back 20% of the changes.
This probably all pushes the IPO back a year or so, but if they think they can increase revenue in that time, it makes some sense.
At this point though I wouldn’t put anything past Reddit.
I have to think someone there is smart enough to know if they block fediverse links that’s a huge escalation that makes them OBVIOUSLY the ‘bad guys’ even in the eyes of people who DGAF about the API nonsense.
From the POV of a 3rd party observer, it COULD be argued that Reddit is just dumping freeloaders, a bunch of the users don’t like it and want shit for free, and it’s a stupid forum drama squabble.
But as soon as they start actively suppressing competitors, that becomes a lot harder to see as anything other than ‘actively stopping their users who want to leave from leaving’.
That’s easy.
Reopen the sub and put a sticky post with info on how to join kbin/lemmy and encouraging users to give it a try and join the fediverse alternative sub you’ve created.
Then if you post any content- do it on the fediverse, and if you post it to Reddit just make it a link post to the fediverse page that has the content. Optionally disable comments or filter them.
They are deleting all references to kbin/lemmy.
Then the more fediverse links that get posted, the more work they’ll have to do. Do they have the staff to keep up? (That’s a rhetorical question.)
Reddit is already making liberal use of AI bots to post and reply, I suspect they will use them to moderate soon enough. After a while, it will just be bots talking to bots (self-generated content) and I think Reddit management will be fine with that as long as Wall Street doesn’t notice or care.
Source on this?
It seems lemmy links were removed from r/Piracy’s sidebar (maybe by the mods, possibly by admins), but their pinned post still has links to both their own piracy instance and the piracy community on lemmy.ml. So maybe pinned posts are safe.
I’ve put the kBin links on the sidebar of my subs.
What ate the new magazines? Promote them here!
a watermark in every post with image/videos that shows the address, eventually even new members will notice and migrate
All the more reason to keep mentioning them in regular comments then - they might be able to moderate stickied posts themselves but they can’t read through every comment on every subreddit.
Why not just program a bot to crawl their site looking for any string that says “lemmy” or “l e m m y” or what have you? I’d think it’s be easy for them to do, the bigger question is what kind of backlash they would get for it.
I’d be more worried about martyring lemmy on Reddit which would just force more traffic over here imo.
Or maybe they dont think Lemmy is actually a threat.
Well then we’ll just have to post even harder.
I’m surprised they’re still allowing that.
I suspect they’ll start auto-deleting comments which reference the competition sooner rather than later.
It’s already increasingly obvious that they’re deleting comments and using bots to change the narrative.
Twitter blocked links Mastadon for a hot minute calling them spam or unsafe or something. IIRC they backed down after a couple of days. Reddit has already been getting shit press for the last couple of weeks, tech journos are watching this all unfold closely, is Reddit dumb enough to take an action that is blatantly censorship and anticompetitive? It would be totally unspinable.
If they do that, it’ll tell you a lot about reddits thinking here. Spez current position is that the people complaining are a small minority and this will all blow over soon. If Reddit really believes that, then they best course of action is to let the complainers post their Lemmy/Kbin links, avoid a fresh round of bad press, and the lemmy/Kbin users will be gone in a couple of weeks and the reddit user base will remain largely intact. If Reddit views the risk of a mass migration to be a real and existential threat to their business, despite what they are saying publicly, then blocking Lemmy/Kbin links would make sense as a last ditch effort to keep their user base of casual users ignorant of popular alternatives, bad press being a necessary cost worth paying to try to retain the user base they need to sell for their ipo. All for that assumes Reddit is behaving rationally though, which Spez has shown isn’t a safe assumption.
Agree that rationality is not a safe assumption. None of this has been rational- it feels like Spez is having a temper tantrum (as would a small child) and those around him are desperately trying to channel it into professional-ish actions.
Also makes sense if Spez is Ellen Pao 2.0- board decides unpopular changes need to be made, so they pay Spez extra to do 120% of what they want and be the fall guy. He goes nuts for a while, then resigns, and is replaced with some suit who looks good on TV and has a bit of social media cred. That guy then says all the right things to the community and walks back 20% of the changes.
This probably all pushes the IPO back a year or so, but if they think they can increase revenue in that time, it makes some sense.
At this point though I wouldn’t put anything past Reddit.
I have to think someone there is smart enough to know if they block fediverse links that’s a huge escalation that makes them OBVIOUSLY the ‘bad guys’ even in the eyes of people who DGAF about the API nonsense.
From the POV of a 3rd party observer, it COULD be argued that Reddit is just dumping freeloaders, a bunch of the users don’t like it and want shit for free, and it’s a stupid forum drama squabble.
But as soon as they start actively suppressing competitors, that becomes a lot harder to see as anything other than ‘actively stopping their users who want to leave from leaving’.