Not individually but as a function of society. These people keep standards high, even the ones who are unreasonable. I don’t like them and I would hate to deal with them but in contrast they make reasonable people appear reasonable. If there were no Karen’s you might get attitude for asking for a clean spoon. So have some appreciation for these horrible people.

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      tbh the use of the term karen is bullying, i found it strange the whole anti bullying thing was going on when the term was popularized.

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        The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually ceased or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly self-contradictory idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance

        Wikipedia

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          the karen meme and term became popular as a way for people of colour, particularly black Americans, to satirise the class-based and racially charged hostility they often face.

          Let’s see how this will be spun to show poc victims of racial and class hostility as racist and hostile to racist bullies.

          People who say calling out bullies is bullying are not against bullying, they’re pro-bullying and are against consequences to bullying ,

          In this case, by their racist and privileged bullying karens threaten people with police, kids with jail, and low-wage service people with losing their jobs, but just publicly calling them karen is too much for the karens and their enablers to handle? This is some z-grade horse manure.

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          I personally try not to use the term because there’s actual people named Karen and it’s super fucked up to have your name used like that.

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            super fucked up

            Your bar for things being fucked up is unimaginably low.

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              I agree. People who were given the name Karen at birth and then lived their entire lives with that as the centre of their identity should just change their names and stop whining

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          Cuz if I replace your name with “shit” then I’m calling you shit. So instead of shit I will use xuxebiko. Brb going to take a huge stinky xuxebiko. Get it now? It’s grade school bullying.

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            The karen/ ken meme and term became popular as a way for people of colour, particularly black Americans, to satirise the class-based and racially charged hostility they often face.

            They protested against racist and privileged bullying that threatened them with police action, their kids with jail, and low-wage service people with losing their jobs, by poking fun at the bullies and publicly calling out the bullying behaviour. POC victims of bullying didn’t threaten their bullies or become violent towards them or wave a gun in their faces, but just publicly calling their bullies karen/ken is too much for the karens/ kens and their enablers to handle.

            People who say calling out bullies is bullying are not against bullying, they’re pro-bullying and are against consequences to bullying.

            ps : remember to wipe front to back .

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                Karen is a slang term used as an antagonistic female character in memes. “Karen” is generally characterized as an irritating, entitled woman, sometimes as an ex-wife who took custody of “the kids.” In 2020, the term was broadly applied to a swath of white women who had been filmed harassing people of color, including dialing the emergency services on them for no criminal reason.

                source : https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/karen

                Ffs, at least know the meme you’re talking about.

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                    It’s not bullying, because it calls out racist bullying by the privileged, the karen/ ken meme is POCs choosing satire as a way of reacting to class-based and racially charged hostility.

                    Did you not read the meme or even the quick excerpt I copy-pasted? Here’s the shorter version.

                    In 2020, the term was broadly applied to a swath of white women who had been filmed harassing people of color, including dialing the emergency services on them for no criminal reason.

                    If you refuse to get it, then I can’t help you.