Not that many people use email much anymore, but as you often need an email address to sign up for other shit… anyway, I need a better option than gmail, I’m sure you can appreciate why. Email is so old school at this point that most of the time I don’t even think about it anymore.

Anyway, I need some email options that aren’t gmail or otherwise attached to a billionaire. I’m not really interested in non-email methods of communication, I’m specifically asking about email.

Thanks in advance.

  • Lime Buzz (fae/she)@beehaw.orgEnglish
    1316·
    2 days ago

    It’s not just the pro-trump stuff though, there’s also the case of being very pro-cop in that they helped get info about a french activist against their will or settings, we believe.

    • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      1·
      3 hours ago

      Oh, shut up already with that misinformation bullshit. Don’t even for a moment pretend if your government showed up with a warrant for information that you would be some fucking noble idiot and refuse to comply. And if you even dare pretend otherwise, you’re a fucking liar.

      They gave the Swiss his IP and nothing else, and loudly complained about having to do so and how it was government overreach. Even if they had chosen to immediately shut down, they still would have had their servers seized and been given no choice to comply.

    • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
      231·
      2 days ago

      God, I can’t believe people are still spreading this nonsense. Proton complied with a legal warrant. Name another company on the planet that will receive a legal warrant and refuses to comply. I’ll wait.

        • ReversalHatchery@beehaw.orgEnglish
          71·
          1 day ago

          how the fuck do you run an email provider without storing anything on disk, first of all?

          next point is mullvad is ready to close shop if that’s what they need to do after a raid. but of you’re storing people’s data for their request basically, like Proton, you can’t just do that because everyone will be mad for losing their data and access to the email service.

          finally, Proton does provide a way to use their services in secret, as they run their onion site. login over Tor, done. but probably also create the account over Tor, and never log in through clearnet with that account

        • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
          3·
          1 day ago

          Mullvad doesn’t host email. The warrant pertained to emails, not a VPN.

          • optissima@lemmy.mlEnglish
            2·
            1 day ago

            Not having logs helps a ton with anonymity, and your question didn’t have that requirement.

            • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
              41·
              1 day ago

              Because it didn’t need it. Email cannot function with the same level of logging as a VPN. My question was about refusal to comply, which Mullvad did not do.

    • BertramDitore@lemm.eeEnglish
      5·
      2 days ago

      That definitely sounds concerning, do you have a link or anything? Any company would have to comply with a legal court order regardless of their preference or ideology, so how they comply comes down to the amount of information they store and for how long. Just saying, the fact that they helped the cops (as much as I hate the cops in general) doesn’t necessarily mean they handed everything over or volunteered anything they weren’t legally obligated to provide. But I don’t know the specifics of the case you mentioned.