Thats pretty reasonable. I’m sure there are a ton of orphan accounts just lingering out there. Including accounts that other people may like to have.

All of these companies are tightening their belts. Those interest rates going up are sure making companies reassess their business models.

undefined> Both are concerning, but as a former academic to me neither of them are as insidious as the harm that LLMs are already doing to training data. A lot of corpora depend on collecting public online data to construct data sets for research, and the assumption is that it’s largely human-generated. This balance is about to shift, and it’s going to cause significant damage to future research. Even if everyone agreed to make a change right now, the well is already poisoned. We’re talking the equivalent of the burning of Alexandria for linguistics research.

It reminds me of the situation with steel where post atomic weapons its tainted. It can’t be used for scientific tools or equipment. You have to find and use it from pre-atomic bombs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel

There is going to be “low background data” in the future.

Because fuck that bot in particular!

The GPL doesn’t “encourage” redistribution. It requires it.

I want to throw AntennaPod out there for anyone looking for a solid android podcast app. Its FOSS as well for those that care about that sorta thing.

https://antennapod.org/

Look at what they are doing with Mark Zuckerberg. Their big PR campaign to show him as a mans man. Posting that he did the Murph challenge, talking about ju jit su, and accepting Elon’s ridiculous challenge for a cage match.

There is this fairly obvious PR campaign to make him seem less like a emotionless robot.

That combined with the lack of capitalization is off-putting for some reason. It grates on me and I can’t put my finger on why.

The road to (technological) serfdom

You cherry picked one line of my post and didn’t address the entire context or intent of it. Im not defending companies or businesses using discord as a drop in replacement for forums or support pages. Imo that’s a mis use of the tech.

I think that’s stupid.

But discord isn’t designed for that. It’s a chat app (voice and text). I don’t want my chats with friends publicly searchable on the internet. That’s dumb. Having my emails publically searchable on the internet is dumb too.

If a company started using Signal or Whatsapp for support, would you be clamoring for all signal and Whatsapp messages to be searchable on the internet?

That doesn’t make any sense. You seem more upset that companies are misusing Discord than mad at Discord.

Then apply that logic to Facebook and relax.

Everyone is losing their minds over this.

100% but I believe these are typically locked down to one domain, and in this case its not.

At least thats how I understand it. So I guess the article is a little misleading in that sense, but the net effect is the same. You have carte blanche access to the web, via android system webview, thats acting as a de-facto out-of-band browser. So its misconfigured or not locked down, which means you can use it effectively as a “hidden” browser.

I see your Stephen Merchant, and raise you a Stephen Frye.

Foxes are very distinct. It sounds like a child screaming. It’s horrible. Google “fox mating call”.

I'm gonna throw this out there:

If Meta is going to join the fediverse (or implement something with activitypub) there is absolutely nothing we can do to stop them.

It's an open protocol. They can use it.

The only thing we can do is force them to follow the AGPL and/or fork the code if they get crazy with change requests.

Why does everything need to be free searchable on the internet?

Call me crazy but I don’t want my group chats publicly available on the internet. Discord feels… private. I know they have access to all the data, but it’s not like a public website, forum, or even an open irc chatroom. It’s my walled garden to chat with friends, stream games, game chat, post dumb memes, etc.

That’s like saying signal is cancer to free and open internet. Or hell, email because it’s not indexed and searchable?

I don’t get the sentiment.

The “right to be forgotten” rules are, with all due respect to the EU regulators, pretty shortsighted.

I think the initial “right to be forgotten” lawsuit that Google faced from that Spanish guy-- where he claimed bankruptcy years prior. People( potential lenders?) kept finding that information online through google searches. He sued to have Google remove those sites from the index. He won and the Spanish Judge told Google they had to remove those results from searches.

But it didn’t change that the information was still on each site. Those sites, the ones that actually held the information didn’t get sued, just Google.

It also opened the door for oppressive governments covering up human rights abuses or hide other information they dont want widely available.

Google appealed and won: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49808208

I also want to point out that this Spanish guy’s situation is very different from “posting publicly on social media”. He was getting written about by others and the courts eventually said “no, this can stand. This information should remain available”. So I imagine, public statements made by an individual certainly wouldn’t qualify to be forgotten.

At the end of the day, to me, this is a technical decision not a privacy one.

My hot take: I’m okay with a barrier to entry (right now).

Getting setup on the fediverse isn’t necessarily a super simple process and there is a bit of learning curve for how it works.

That’s okay. I actually like it. Here’s why.

It means the people here want to be here. It means the people here understand what it is and more importantly what it isn’t. It’s not a reddit clone. It’s not even old school forums. It’s this.

And “this” isn’t even it’s final form. I fully expect for the fediverse to evolve over the next few months and years. As a community develops and the technology is refined, I am sure it will all get simpler as we knock off the rough edges.

In the mean time, this tiny barrier to entry keeps a lot of the whiners and naysayers away. It keeps people that only want a reddit clone, away. If you want reddit, use reddit. It’s not going anywhere anytime soon.

It’s a balancing act, because we don’t want to turn so many people away that we can’t build a reasonable community, but you also don’t want a bad copy of a system people are leaving.

Haha! I didn’t even notice the avatar. So I guess maybe ageism and accidental sexism are still a thing here?

My bad :)

The only drama I’ve seen on it is a few idealists on other instances complaining about it and these posts.

I actually like beehaw more as an instance because of what they’ve done.

Nilay Patel had a great article when Elon bought Twitter. One of the key take aways I tend to agree with is:“The essential truth of every social network is that the product is content moderation, and everyone hates the people who decide how content moderation works.”

I love being part of a community and being able to discuss and debate. But ultimately I want to do it in a place where I don’t feel creeped out, skeevy, or where I am getting harassed or threatened.

I value the moderation. I value the curation. I want the mods to defederate if they see an influx of trolls, shit posts, or sketchy content from a particular instance.

And you know what, I’ll be annoyed when they block something or someone I don’t think they should have.

The reality is: the fediverse is designed for this sort of thing. Theyve been very transparent and they will re federate when the tooling is better. I have no reason to doubt that.

I see this as growing pains and nothing more.

got away from ageism

No way, old man winter!

Just kidding! I remember being on a gaming forum back in the early 00s and having a couple of “old” guys on (in their 30s-40s). We’d always give them shit, but at the same time looked up to them and thought it was cool they were still gaming.

They also had great perspective and wisdom to share with us teenage idiots.

Now I get to be the ‘old’ guy in my 30s. It’s fun to engage with the younger crowd, and not dismiss them because of their age, because the younger generations have interesting perspectives too. I’m like paying it forward.