I self host a nextcloud service on my old desktop that serves as a server but every now and then the updates crash something. Sharing calendar and notes is too complicated if you don’t have a vps or a domain.
Self hosting is a pain imo. You can pay a small cloud provider with nextcloud. There is a middle ground between big tech and self hosting.
Proton does have open-source bridges/proxies, so they aren’t hiding these details from us
The issue I talked about was not privacy-wise. It just suck to have to use a package that is not in debian repository just to receive commercial emails. Updates are a pain. And it is the kind of software that people should keep up-to-date.
Proton emails are stored in an encrypted form that goes beyond the simple authentication that is part of the POP/IMAP specifications
Ok, let's talk about privacy. Email will never be secure because it was not designed to be and there are too many issues.
The subject line and other metadata are not encrypted. (from protonmail website). Most of the people use email to register to accounts and for commercial communications, where all valuables informations are in the object of the email.
There are more private way to communicate with people (like xmpp or matrix for example)
We kill people based on metadata. Well metadata encryption are pretty important.
So giving up convenience for 0 security sucks.
Perhaps Thunderbird could be enhanced to support the Proton features directly?
It would be great if there were an add-on for it. If someone knows how to develop it, please do it, it would improve UX a lot.
But it does not solve the issue completely. On mobile, the issue is still there (I know they have an app but I would prefer to have all my email at the same place). Also, if I want to use nextcloud mail, you have to developp an addon for nextcloud now.
Edit: changed the link for the alternative piped link suggested.
No.
Their email service is bad. Why do I need a proton software to use thunderbird ? Why don’t you use open standards for email ?
Lol no. Are you going to audit all the code you use ? You need to trust some organizations to make the audit. You NEED to trust some entities
I tried ubuntu touch. Not having any banking app was a pain. I was not successful in using signal. WhatsApp is also very used around me. So I gave up.
I wanted to degoogle so I tried iOS. It is absolute garbage.
I think /e/OS, GrapheneOS and CalyxOs are the best to use right now. I might buy a fairphone with /e/OS despite the price when I will change phone, because I do not want to buy a pixel