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  • I read the article, and the direction Honda is going worries me, scares me even.

    I wish all the best for electric-powered motorcycles. I can’t wait to see them become cost-competitive with gas motorcycles. I think Honda would do quite well with an e-grom.

    But, Honda doesn’t seem to just focus on switching the powertrain to electric. They emphasize connectivity and tech. Don’t get me wrong, I like high-tech motorcycles, look at the Yamaha R1. But there is one clear line I draw where the tech becomes detrimental: The point where the addition of new tech gives the manufacturer more control over the bike.

    With the Yamaha R1, all the tech is either to make the motorcycle safer to ride (cornering ABS), or make the ride more customizable (power modes). These settings don’t frequently change unless you tell it to and it can all be turned off.

    But I’m seeing that Honda wants to copy Zero’s “make the customer pay to unlock the feature that the hardware already supports,” plus adding features enabling the collection and selling of user data. This is especially scary if insurance companies buy the data. It takes away the freedom of motorcycling, as you are metaphorically being ruled by greedy companies.















  • No, that’s not abysmal. Have you seen the other electric motorcycles? The new electric Ninjas get like 40 miles of range, and the more expensive Live wire gets 100-150. The Zeros probably also get 75-150 miles of range at highway speeds.

    For another perspective, my ICE Suzuki GZ250 gets something like 170 miles to a tank at highway speeds, but I don’t have a fuel gauge so I refill every 100-130 miles. Other ICE motorcycles like some Harley-Davidson Sportsters get just 100 miles in a full tank of gas due to a small tank and big engine. The fast sport bikes tend to get about 150. Even the Goldwing, a luxury touring motorcycle, gets about 190 miles to a tank.

    It’s rare to see 200+ miles of range in an ICE motorcycle at highway speeds, so I think it’s quite impressive to get this range in an electric motorcycle at highway speeds. The charging speed also seems quite good, as I’d probably want a 20 minute break after 175 miles of riding. The only thing that sucks is the high price, you can get a brand new Hayabusa for 20% less than this.