Honestly, I am quite surprised how low tankies are willing to go to defend China. As a Chinese, it is very disheartening to me that people have never experienced or seen the suffering of living under an authoritarian government, are more willing to blindly defend it, than having a intellectual discussion.

Compare the prison population of the US to China’s lol.

likely means the wage that reaches your bank account, i.e. wage - 401k, insurance etc

Well ain’t that a shit definition then

Chinese people will need 30 years of disposible income to purchase an apartment; compare to 3 in the U.S.

Who can afford a condo with 3 years disposable income in the US? My spouse and I make above average money in a below average cost city and we couldn’t afford a condo here.

But instead we are arguing the semantics over whether a man should take responsibilty for his own bigotry or whether the entire global leftist project should bear that burden for him.

I’m not having that argument? I am sort of confused as to why you think I’m making that argument?

I think you’re continuing to read me as appealing to pragmatism when I am instead appealing to learning from people who he respects on why he is personally wrong on the issue.

I would once again ask you, what specifically do you want to happen? If you’re having a hard time articulating it, I would suggest looking at the constructive criticism handbook. https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-3/constructive-criticism.html?ref=redstarcaucus.org

Man is a person. He answers to a community. He’s not actually a party official of the revolutionary guard and you and I are allowed to demand better.

Demand better from him than providing free gender affirming care and legalizing gay marriage, affirming other alt family structures, proactively having a country do pro-lgbt education to root out cultural bigotry like in Cuba? I’m am somewhat confused by this statement? What does demanding better here look like?

There can be no allyship with someone who understands our experience purely through the lens of political opportunism.

Do you think all pro-lgbt measures done in socialist states to be about political opportunism? Because in Cuba it took a multi-decade effort while struggling against the influence of the catholic church and colonial-legacy machismo culture to expand lgbt rights to the point that they’re better than the US

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In some contexts but it is broader than that.

I’m saying his heart is in the right place but he has wrong-headed ideas. Given the guy follows a socialist intellectual tradition it is reasonable that you suggest he gets his head in the right place by understanding socialist social practice on the issue.

Honestly this is a really uncharitable reading of what I’m saying.

If someone ostensibly left-wing or socialist needs to read theory in order value my life and needs as a proletarian ally then they can necessarily be no ally of mine. More work needs to be done beyond tacit academic acceptance.

Except here it seems the guy does oppose transphobia generally but needs specific work done to advance his understanding of the issue.

And understanding social practice in other places to improve your own social practice isn’t academic. It is not an ivory-tower-ass thing.

What other minority has to be vetted for their use before being welcomed into your so-called revolutionary project?

Socialist projects are doing better on lgbt issues because they are recognizing the old bigotry against lgbt people for what it is.

LGBT people aren’t being used, except in the sense that discarding liberal bigotries in general helps make the system more robust.

I’m literally a trans person btw, I am approaching this from an angle of actually helping people remove their own bigotries. What is your solution here? What should dessalines do to get better on trans issues, concretely? If you’re having a hard time articulating your criticism, I would suggest the constructive criticism handbook.

Yeah, it seems like he still has some political development on this front to do to chase out some liberal brainstorms.

I think the guy’s heart is in the right place though, I think he just hasn’t done the legwork yet on studying how modern socialist states are moving on lgbt issues and why they’re doing so.

Oh I think there is going to be a sequel where she covere tops’ rights within socialism

I dont understand the joke

Read “why women had better sex under socialism, and other arguments for economic independence”

Underdeveloped take from Dessalines: the bourgeoisie love to promote bigotry while covering themselves in a cloak of progressivism

Yes, it is their fault the nazis viewed them as subhuman and exterminated them in a way they didn’t do with the conquered French. /s

Have you actually studied ww2? France fell in weeks. So yeah the Soviets did better.

Yes, I think our democratic processes could be better in many countries.

No, we do not have democracy. We have bourgeois democracy that cannot be reformed into democracy.

What is bourgeois democracy?: https://www.leftvoice.org/bourgeois-democracy-what-do-marxists-mean-by-that-term/

If you are skeptical of the inability to reform bourgeois democracy I would do some reading on Allende and Chile.

And you think the numerically inferior soviet troops -who did better than the larger more mechanized and better equipped French and British troops- while also fighting a larger better equipped force demonstrates…

The point of this exercise is for you to find the numbers and experience a moment of self reflection. What I think of the credibility of the numbers doesn’t matter.

You won’t though. One has to wonder why?

No, capitalism vs socialism is; who owns the means of production, the capitalist class or the working class?