Yes but that wasn’t the original comment I replied to was about.

I know this doesn’t matter these days but once again that wasn’t what the original comment was about.

I agree, it was just about the size differences. I just think it’s good to bring up since there’s many confused about the flatpak size use. Often people might want to install some small app and they’re hit with gigs of stuff and come off thinking that’s the same for every app, which would be insane of course.

WAIT I just took a deeper look at the link, isn’t that guy just showing the runtimes without the applications using 8.7 GiB?

Yes it’s specifically comparing runtimes. Same for my number, I was calculating how much the runtimes used.

If you allocate 30 GB for / that seems pretty low these days for a desktop system. If you don’t have much space, it’s always best to go with regular repository packages

Here someone had 163 flatpaks and it used 8,7GB in runtimes. So I’m guessing the 30GB number is for whole of /.

I just checked out mine, I have 34 apps and runtimes use 3,1GB

Runtimes are shared in theory but not in practice.

I think three runtimes (newest freedesktop, KDE and GNOME) cover 90% of my flatpaks. Then there’s programs that use some EOL’d runtime and never get updated, which sucks

You should test it out with those 33 installed as flatpak. If you end up with 4.7GB for runtimes, that’s basically nothing these days as far as storage goes for that amount of programs. More you have, more you benefit from shared runtimes. I doubt it’ll be less than AppImages but it’s usually the starting runtime space use that shocks people.

Here someone tested it with 163 flatpaks and the runtimes used 8.7GB. With the top 5 most used runtimes covering 128 of those flatpaks.

https://blogs.gnome.org/wjjt/2021/11/24/on-flatpak-disk-usage-and-deduplication/

I just checked out mine, I have 34 apps and runtimes use 3,1GB

It doesn’t matter if they share if in the end they end up using several times more storage than the appimage equivalent.

Well we are talking about two gigs, after all. Unless you’re using an embedded system, it’s not a much of a concern if you ask me. But it is more, true

If it works for you then it works, no need to switch it up. I guess one other way of doing it would be a persistent install on that USB.

Not a fan of AppImages myself. For an universal format it has surprising amount of issues with different distros, in my experience. And the whole Windows style “go to a website, download the AppImage, if you want to update it, go to the web page again and download it again” is one thing I wanted to get away from. At least they don’t come with install wizards, that clicking through menus thing was a pain.

For one off stuff I run once and never need again, AppImage is alright. But not being built-in with sandboxing, repos, all that stuff, it just seems like a step back.

Then again, loads of apps share that runtime. And if other runtimes have same stuff as that GNOME runtime, the shared parts are on your disk only once. It’s pretty smart in how it works.

I don’t remember what program it was, the dev explained it wasn’t available as flatpak because flatpaks are unsafe or something. Then the installation guide went “well anyway here’s curl | sudo bash.” Like, lmao. Talk about bad security practices.

I think it’s an interesting approach. I much prefer flatpak but can’t say I’m curious what all-snap system would be like

The ads and the Amazon thing will follow Canonical forever

GNU+XNU

This part did sound pretty concerning

Further, they have frequently promoted conspiracy theories and misinformation regarding Covid-19, such as this A DARPA-FUNDED IMPLANTABLE BIOCHIP TO DETECT COVID-19 COULD HIT MARKETS BY 2021. The Covid vaccine does not alter DNA. They have also published conspiracy theories related to 9/11 and Chemtrails. Finally, they frequently rely on Russian government sources like RT News and Sputnik.

“Infiltrated” seems like a clandestine action even though they just selected her to be on the board. It’s not like her having been on WEF council (“Chair of the World Economic Forum Global Agenda Council on the Future of Internet Security”) was a secret to people who made her a board member since it’s very available info.

Thanks to the way back machine we can see that they quietly erased Rosemary Leith’s bio of her affiliations with the WEF.

Now why would they do that?

I think especially right-wingers have made the WEF into some Jewish conspiracy theory and it has taken a life of its own so might just be bad PR. Tbh that seems like the simplest option. You don’t want to scare away the potential customers.

I stuck with PIA, mostly since I had no issues (software, connection wise) and it was just very very cheap

It seems like they have VPN services and they don’t really care who uses them. Business doing business things

Lmao

What kind of system that depends on centralized servers can ever be secure from government snooping?

With properly implemented E2EE it can be less of a problem because at least the message content isn’t readable to them. Metadata though

I think if you can write them in two different ways it should consider them two different things

This is the one I’ve seen

The question posed that I started the discussion with was if he was a dictator.

Stalin did not individually cause or carry out purges, how could he have done so?

I mean it’s not like Hitler did the gassing himself. But rather as a leader ordering it. Doesn’t diminish the responsibility. And nobody claimed he personally killed these people.

Stalin’s role was not as some Great Man (not Great as in Good, but Great as in influential), but as a steward of the USSR like any other would have been.

I think that’s the thing we disagree about, how much control he had.

The discussion was if Stalin was a dictator to begin with.

I am asking for actual, genuine, measurable issues, of which there are plenty, so that we can compare with other countries and see what should have been done instead. You haven’t provided any of that.

I did mention the purges, murders and sending political opponents to concentration camps. It’s a side-effect from the dictator thing and I’d personally consider that a bit “stinky”.