GarbageShoot [he/him]

Oh sure, Owen was mistaken from the outset because his genuinely more-efficient way of running things isn’t going to be as profitable to the owning class, meaning that no amount of advocacy can escape the gravitational pull of the profit motive dragging it down into the mire of human misery. I was just talking about what he did that ruined his career from a practical standpoint by drawing the ire of the bourgeoisie, which was not his company town model alone.

Sorry to spam you with nitpicks, but I do feel obliged to say that while Einstein was certainly a socialist and spoke very well of Lenin and even Stalin, I don’t think we have evidence of him having a specific and cultivated political ideology that fit a label like “Marxism.” I think he was more of a generic humanist who appreciated what his Marxist contemporaries were doing.

Incidentally, how did Marx borrow from Proudhon? I fully only know of Proudhon through Discourse about concerning material he wrote and that quote about, ironically, wishing for a future where he would be executed as a conservative.

I think that what fucked over Owen, according to Engels, was not his coops but his assessment that they were inadequate and more fundamental changes to society were required, concerning marriage, religion, and something else that I forget. For just the coops, he was celebrated in a way that isn’t even that different from the OP, because he didn’t really shatter the existing paradigm, but produce an extremely productive version of it that just happened to be relatively pro-social.

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Unfortunately for your ideology, most Chinese people support their government:

https://ash.harvard.edu/files/ash/files/final_policy_brief_7.6.2020.pdf

How do you reconcile this? Shall we trot out some paternalisms about “brainwashing” next?

Do you have anything but the most condescending and one-sided “solidarity” for a people who support their government?

Were the trade unionists the ones immolating unarmed soldiers and stringing up their corpses?

see Tienamin Square

I’m looking it up, and I don’t see any “Tienanmin Square”. Could it be “Tiananmen Square” that you’re thinking of? The one protesting government corruption? Where unarmed soldiers were burned alive? Where Christian sickos were trying to get students in the line of fire to create atrocity propaganda? Surely there must be some confusion here!

I can’t quite tell if this is a parody, the trade union bit makes it seem sincere, but the self-importance to think that lemmy is too left for China to allow is just amazing.

sometimes questionable moderation

That’s one way of putting it. Another way is “ramrodding the narratives of anglo chauvinists that are to the right of even the neoliberal historical consensus”.

If that was adequate to explain Youtube’s decision-making, the platform would be unrecognizably different for all of the terrible things Youtube didn’t do because it would be – and indeed was – terrible

You’re really cool and I appreciate you

“It’s called the Campaign Against Antisemitism, surely it’s an authority on antisemitism. I also go to the National Endowment for Democracy for my democracy news and the Foundation for Economic Education for etc.”

It was a deliberate joke, I think

To encourage them to engage in better behaviors when they can

You don’t seem very interested in the responses that do elaborate. I wonder why that is . . .

No, because that might be an incentive to buy it. Being a pirate is probably more fun anyway, though.

Honestly still more than my city has on some streets