Your attitude is just proving my point further. The only benefit of the doubt I can give you is that you can’t comprehend what I was saying. Also, as far as I know, isn’t Grindr for LGBTQ+? If so, why would I go there? I am straight. Or do you think straight men should “stop whining” and date other men? How is this different from conservatives telling gay people to just not be gay?

At the very least, thank you for letting me know I shouldn’t be spending time on Lemmy. Keep acting like this and then complain about people using non-Fediverse sites. I’m just done. Enjoy Lemmy, the home of double standards and hatred. I won’t take part in it any longer.

And once again, I am accused of lying because it doesn’t fit your narrative. I’m not even gonna expand further on the fact that I do have friends who happen to be girls. The reason I won’t expand further is because you’ll just assume I am lying about it. Just as Vreyan31 did, and just as you did.

You are purposedly pretending not to understand that my issue is not sex, it’s people assuming I am a piece of shit for not having sex. And to further your own view, you just prove my point, which is that people will disregard anything I say just cause I didn’t have a relationship. Seems that the person obsessed with sex isn’t me. I’m not the one making judgements of others based on whether they did it or not.

Because these posts lump all men without relationships together. Does the Tumblr user above make any mention of exceptions? Nope. The post boils down to men who didn’t date didn’t succeed because “skill issue”. This would imply that regardless of any other possible causes, I am deserving of ridicule because I don’t live life like you.

You yourself make assumptions about me. I was right to say “because of social anxiety, btw, not that you’d care”, because immediately here’s a reply that implies my social anxiety is not real, or it is but it’s not relevant. You assume the worst of me because I dare not have a girlfriend. This is precisely the issue. I’ve long since moved on from pursuing dating. I don’t care if I never have a girlfriend anymore. However, what I do care is if people assume I’m a horrible piece of shit because of it.

Long story short, your comment is case in point: It does not matter what I say. My reply to you is useless. I never had a girlfriend and therefore anything I say is discarded because I have to be an asshole in order for that to be the case.

You know that’s not what I mean by social anxiety. Even the fact that you put it in quotation marks makes it sound like you don’t believe anxiety can be a genuine reason to have never dated. I have social anxiety. I am a man. I’ve never dated. Therefore, you will now assume I’m a fascist who hates women, stalks women, is violent towards women. You will also assume that my social anxiety (or “social anxiety”, as you say) is a lie, a cover for the way you assume I act.

I’m not making excuses for actual fascists or actual men who do the things you mentioned above. I am, however, against this idea that men who struggle dating MUST do those things because there’s, supposedly, no other explanation. Do the men you describe exist? Sure. Attacking any men not in a relationship is where I draw the line.

Genuinely, who keeps posting shit like this on here? I keep seeing posts such as this one and it’s honestly pushing me away from Lemmy. Why spend time on a platform that hates me? If being a man who didn’t date (because of social anxiety, btw, not that you’d care, since clearly men are by default fascists, according to some comments here) is a sin, let us know on the front page, so that me and others like myself can avoid this place.

A lot of comments are, thankfully, calling this shitty behaviour out. But then I look at the post itself, which has 696 upvotes and 166 downvotes, and I’m like… I’m not wanted here.

Holy, this thread is a mess. If you think all men who struggle dating are fascists, this conversation ends here. If you accept the fact that not every man not in a relationship is a fascist, then we can talk. More specifically, we can talk about how the point isn’t to “coddle fascists”, but rather to not antagonize new men into the arms of Andrew Tate and others.

Is someone with social anxiety, therefore struggles dating, a fascist? You might know a far-right socially anxious guy, sure, but that doesn’t prove anything beyond the fact that this one person is a fascist. I’m not sure how it’s right wing propaganda to say that generalization is bad. But I’m also not sure whether you realize an issue (in this case, men struggle with relationships) can have more than one cause.

You… do realize there are lonely men in other countries, right? Like, the US is not the only place on Earth? Ah yes, the infamous Trump voters from checks notes … Norway, Egypt, Japan, etc.

And if you’re gonna say “Well they’re not voting for Trump but some other Trump-like politician”, don’t bother. You can’t generalize every man, half the world population, just because you know men who voted Trump/Trump equivalents. Because if that’d be how it works, I could just as easily find you a woman that voted Trump and then point out how, supposedly, women suck cause they vote Trump based on this “evidence”.

So tell me this then: When people hear that a man hasn’t dated, why is the first thing that comes to your mind the assumption that “you walk around with a maga hat and tell women your body my choice”? Is that the only explanation? Is there no nuance in the world? If a man has never dated, is he automatically MAGA and anti-abortion?