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And the exothermic reaction is really weak. Barely gets warm.

Not that I would recommend this, but I feel like the shittiness of business correlates in inversely with the public’s opinion on molotov cocktails.

If your fucking business burns down weekly because you keep fucking people over, you’re not going to stay in business very long.

Yeah, I guess I have no idea how long a drive that I do frequently takes. As for town, the metro area is a quaint 1.8 million people.

Gonna disagree with you there. I just priced out the cost of going from my house to my brother’s apartment in the same city.

For reference, it is ~11 miles by car, and takes ~15 minutes to drive there. My car gets ~36mpg in city, so roughly 1/3 of a gallon of gas, so about $1.20 in gas right now. Parking is 1 dollar and hour, with a 25 cent service charge.

To take the bus, is almost a 2 hr trip, requires a transfer to a other bus, and it costs around 5-8 bucks (couldn’t get firm pricing for the trip).

It is way faster, cheaper, and less stressful to drive there and park for a few hours than it is to take the bus, and my city has pretty good bus transit compared to the rest of the US. Also I can do the trip anytime I want, and come back anytime I want, and round trip it saves me almost 3.5 hrs of my day.

Mainly it’s last mile issue. Train gets you to the state, and maybe the city you want, but where do you go from there? Busses are slow and just generally terrible here. Light rail/subways only exist in a handful of metro areas, and the cost of a train ticket here is usually more than the fuel cost to drive, and takes 3x as long.

No question why.

State has way more guns and bodies than I do.

Better rule of thumb, if you see a snake, don’t pick it up. If you can’t tell what kind of snake it is definitely don’t pick it up.

That is one possibility. We could also use pumped hydro, thermal batteries, or just a big fucking rock on a pulley to store that extra energy.

Thank you. Long document, and I’m working through it.

Question so far though…

I have a house in my possession, I live in it, and I regularly maintain it. I’d like to go live in a different, nicer house. How do I do that?

The document also states that a person has a right to their labor, so if I work on my house and improve it, or just really stop it from falling into disrepair, how do I access the value of that labor when I no longer need the house, without forcing economic violence on the person thst possesses it next?

Where is the limit on what I can possess? Am I allowed to walk in the woods regularly and claim I possess it? What is the difference the walls and a roof that I possess as my house, versus the woods that I walk through?

Any specific books or resources you might recommend?

The various people that have developed this political & economic theory on which for example the definition on the Wikipedia page you linked is based on.

The word “regular” appears 0 times I the article I linked. What did you read?

Who is commonly agreeing to this? What counts as “regular usage”? I regularly use the toilet at work. Would it become my personal property?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_property#Personal_versus_private_property

If that description of personal property does not work for your individual consensus, please provide one (that is testable) for the purpose of this conversation.

Cool. I’m going to need your car too.

For what is is worth, I looked up personal vs private property, and it seems that the actual distinction isn’t usage, it’s portability. So, you would have a right to your toothbrush, car, and money, but your home, business, or farm would not belong to you. So if I wanted your house, I could reasonable make a claim that I needed it and “take” it from you. (Although it can’t technically be taking since you don’t have any ownership, and very few “rights” to the house.)

So, let’s follow that up with a question.

How hard are you going to work on maintaining or improving your home, if you know that someone else, who can’t live in their home because they didn’t maintain it, can just make a claim on your home, and have a reasonable chance of getting it?

The system you’re describing doesn’t make everyone free of economic violence, it forces everyone to be serfs for one giant entity (the country).

While you’re reading up on Marxism, and personal vs private property, go ahead and read up on what a strawman is, because you’ve accused me twice of building a strawman without merit, and I have doubts that you genuinely understand the concept.

Woah woah woah there! I’m not stealing. I just really need that toothbrush, badly, and I can take it from you and I don’t have to pay you for it. I should give you some money maybe, but I’m certainly not legally compelled to, so I won’t. Didn’t you read anything you wrote?

That toothbrush you have. I need it more. Give it here. I’m coming for the toothbrush.

But if someone else would come and ask if they can use it since evidently you don’t, there is not much you could do about it other that asking them to voluntarily reimburse you for your costs

Here you are, talking about someone being able to take a garage that I converted into a living space, because they need it more that I am using it. So yes, you did say that someone could take my stuff from me.

How would you genuinely determine need for a house? Who is going to build houses if someone else just gets to live in them for free? What’s the motivation for building houses?

And no one every said anything about work not being rewarded.

No, but it’s implicit in the quote from Karl Marx* that you sent me earlier. From each by ability to each by need covienently forgets about the efforts of each. Which is an inherent flaw of Marxism.

from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs

Great, who determines ability and needs?

Some disagreements over the use of a garage between neighbors,

Sure, the garage scenario is plausible, but the bigger implications is what happens if someone decides they need my car, or my house, or my toothbrush more than I do? What’s my motivation to work, to earn, or to risk if the payoff is the same as someone who does nothing?

You say that no one would take anything from anyone, because there is no private ownership, but almost everyone privately owns their shit right now, it would all have to transition to your idea of “personal” non-ownership. So someone IS taking all the stuff from everyone, you just have a roundabout way of saying it, or you don’t understand the implications of what you are actually saying.

Why would you, who likely spend no effort at all in building or maintaining the house of your father have any special rights?

By this logic, why should any outside party who absolutely didn’t put any effort in to the property get to claim it?

[The] distinction is clear: regular usage. Nothing arbitrary about that at all.

What counts as regular usage? This didn’t answer the question, it just kicked the can down the road a little way. Who or what determines when my property transitions from personal to private?

It’s an edge case scenario, but I wouldn’t call it a strawman.

What about in the case where my father dies. What happens to his house? Do I have to sell it? What if no one wants to buy it right away? What is the defining difference between personal property and private property? Because right now, it just seems like the difference is when you, or some arbitrary body of consensus, decides that someone else owns enough stuff.