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    17 days ago

    Also, there were plenty of people who were never going to vote for a woman, no matter what.

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      17 days ago

      I’m sure that’s true too, but that’s not the reason she lost, and Democrats will continue to stack losses if that’s the narrative that they go with.

      Democrats haven’t been ceding male voters to Republicans for 16 years because they hate women. It’s because, in the liberal and activist communities, it’s become customary and accepted to treat men like shit.

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        It’s because, in the liberal and activist communities, it’s become customary and accepted to treat men like shit.

        this is just as dumb as the opposite “they didn’t vote for Kamala because she’s a woman”

        people don’t like Kamala because she’s an extension of Joe Biden and Biden has been a failure. that’s why she lost. she offered status quo when people want change. the DNC is incapable of changing quick enough to avoid fascism

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        Democrats will continue to stack losses if that’s the narrative that they go with

        $20 says that or race is the narrative they go with.

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      17 days ago

      Plenty of people will also never vote for a black man, but that worked spectacularly for the Democrats the first time.

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      Then maybe don’t force a woman onto the ballot in “the most important election of our lifetime”. I’m all for progress, but you don’t win elections by forcing ideals upon people who won’t have them, and if this was truly the most important election of our lifetime, then the Democrats should have fielded their most appealing candidate.

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        Yeah if the DNC really gave as much credence to the vote power of racism and misogyny as they do when complaining about election losses, then why would they deliberately step on that landmine by selecting kamala only 8 years after HRC? It’s not like we think idealistic dreamers run the DNC right? That’s silly.

        Why did Dems lose the Senate? Keep the house? Cuz its more than just Harris here… What we’re seeing is voter repudiation of the last 4 years.

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      17 days ago

      If that’s why Kamala lost, then explain why Tammy Baldwin is winning Wisconsin and Elissa Slotkin is winning in Michigan.