• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    22
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    4 months ago

    Why does this feel like it’s a flat-earth slide? I haven’t looked at any flat-earth propaganda, but I strongly suspect that it looks a lot like this.

    That said, I’ll stick with my VMs regardless. I like simplicity.

        • Norgur@fedia.io
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          20
          ·
          4 months ago

          The absurd waste of resources VMs bring… LXC and Docker a godsend in that regard.

      • namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        4 months ago

        I would vote for docker as well. The last time I had to inherit a system that ran on virtual machines, it was quite a pain to figure out how the software was installed, what was where in the file system, and where all the configuration was coming from. Replicating that setup took months of preparation.

        By contrast, with Docker, all your setup is documented. The commands that were used to install our software into the virtual machines and were long gone are present right there in the Docker file. And building the code? An even bigger win for Docker. In the VM project, the build environment for the C++ portion of our codebase was configured by about a dozen environment variables, none of which were documented. If it were built in Docker, all the necessary environment variables would have been right there in the build environment. Not to mention the build commands themselves would be there too, whereas with VMs, we would often have developers build locally and then copy it into the VM, which was terrible for reproducibility and onboarding new developers.

        That said, this all comes down to execution - a well-managed VM system can easily be much better than a poorly managed Docker system. But in general, I feel that Docker tends to be easier to work with than a VM. While Docker is far from flawless, there are a lot more things that can make life harder with VMs, at least from my experience.

    • PoolloverNathan@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      4 months ago

      Nix has flakes; nix run can contain pretty much all of the needed dependencies. If that’s not enough, you can set up an entire container as a module.