people have been demonizing it for most of the AD years i think but it’s quite pleasant really. are there any proven negative effects?

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    I think the simpler answer is, you are so right, it barely has to be valorized. It sells itself.

    I think the long answer is that porn addiction is a real thing that can affect people. Also lots of people in charge of things like sex education have historically been prudes who see masturbation as some sort of gateway to promiscuity.

    Orgasms are normal, healthy and necessary.

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        I mean addiction colloquially. The existence and over use of porn does cause some people and their relationship some level of affects. I don’t think we can just hand wave it all away.

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      Orgasms are normal, healthy and necessary

      Yes, yes, no.

      While orgasms are normal and can potentially have some physical and mental benefits, there is no physical or mental necessity to have them (plenty of asexual and otherwise celibate people of all different kinds out there to prove it).

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        I don’t agree, in the experience of my friend circle, if you don’t release for a while:

        • you start having wet dreams
        • prostate harm - increased rates of prostate cancer in multiple studies - and my friend developed pelvic floor issues
        • the “mental harm” is having to walk around horny all the time, constantly thinking of sex, and affecting your interactions
        • even celibate people mostly masturbate, that’s not what it means. Including many confessions from priests
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          the “mental harm” is having to walk around horny all the time, constantly thinking of sex, and affecting your interactions

          this is not a problem which normal people face. if you are constantly thinking about sex, you may have an addiction or an otherwise unhealthy relationship with sex

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            Hey don’t shame ppl for normal variance in sex drive. Being horny is not a disease

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          Well done, you’ve provided some anecdotal effects and benefits, which I didn’t deny exist.

          However none of them demonstrate necessity.

          Breathing, sleeping, drinking, eating, shitting - those are necessities.

          Having orgasms is not, no matter how much you try to convince yourself and others.

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            Sure you don’t “have to” bathe but you’ll have a bad time if you don’t