“Systematic reviews of controlled clinical studies of treatments used by chiropractors have found no evidence that chiropractic manipulation is effective, with the possible exception of treatment for back pain.[8] A 2011 critical evaluation of 45 systematic reviews concluded that the data included in the study “fail[ed] to demonstrate convincingly that spinal manipulation is an effective intervention for any condition.”[10] Spinal manipulation may be cost-effective for sub-acute or chronic low back pain, but the results for acute low back pain were insufficient.[11] No compelling evidence exists to indicate that maintenance chiropractic care adequately prevents symptoms or diseases.[12]”

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    Vertebral subluxation isn’t a thing. Chiropractors made it up. You might have had a dislocation, but subluxation is oogy boogy words.

    Chiropractors DO have some evidence that they can provide short term, immediate pain relief for back pain. However, physical therapy and exercise after an adjustment is necessary or you have to see a Chiro forever.

    Also a PT or DO can do the same kinds of manipulations with an actual medical degree.

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      Orthopedic surgeon here

      Vertebral subluxation is a real thing n depending on the level, can lead to paralysis, complete or partial or death. It is not oogy boogy.

      After road accident, chiropractic manipulation might be the biggest reason for it.

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      Thanks, your interpretation is not required.

      And you’re incorrect

      https://health.clevelandclinic.org/whats-the-difference-between-shoulder-dislocation-and-subluxation

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK559144/

      edit: and if PTs and DOs are doing the same adjustments, then the adjustments are a legitimate therapy when done correctly, regardless of who is doing them, unless you’re saying PTs and DOs are also illegitimate. Your argument is nonsense.

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          And you’re still completely wrong about subluxation being a made up word. That post from Cleveland Clinic explains the difference to you, and the NIH link goes into thorough descriptions of it.

          Hmmm, which should I rely on, Cleveland Clinic and NIH, or some idiot who couldn’t be bothered to look up the big words before saying they aren’t real? Gee, let me think.

          But then again, you’re probably not competent enough to read the NIH discussion and understand it.

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          That is ridiculous characterization of people who go through formal education to learn their craft. You are a fucking idiot.

          Apparently 4-7 years of education and clinical practice at an average of $120,000 or more is equivalent to watching a few youtube videos. Only a dumbass would think something like that.

          Not to mention that chiropractors are licensed by state medical boards. Get the fuck outta here with that nonsense.

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          I also love how the goalposts have been moved from “chiropractic techniques are ineffective and have no value” to “well actually those same techniques are effective and legitimate when done by certain people.” That is hilarious!

          What’s sad is that after 25+ years of having these arguments, you knuckleheads haven’t come up with anything original.