At least there was a distinction between web of documents (WWW) and shipped apps with custom canvas. Rendering apps with web’s DOM is stupid. It makes websites a mess and relies on everyone using the same monoculture of browsers (like we now have Chromium, WebKit and Gecko, all nearly identical).

If browser does not support one feature (like CSS’s transform), the whole house of cards breaks. It’s like making ASCII art in notepad and then expecting everyone to use the same notepad app with the same font and style, to not break our art proportions.

We need to split web into websites and webapps, with webapps being browser dependent or full custom canvases and websites being immutable human-readable and editable format.

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    How do the rules work here? Am I supposed to upvote opinions I agree with, or ones I disagree with?

    Either way, I 100% agree that trying to shoehorn an app into a document format is fundamentally dumb. I’m glad to see somebody other than me saying it, for once!

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      I don’t know eather. This is the same scheme as on Reddit, so supposedly you give upvote if the post fits the community, giving good discussion and downvote when don’t, even when you disagree But most people use it as like and dislike, as it’s more natural.

      For much time I was thinking I hate web development, but couldn’t name it. Http is great, HTML is great, CSS is great, JS is great, REST API is great… etc. I hate two things: lack of clear JavaScript licences format and what Internet Explorer did to us which is monoculture and thinking we can hack text documents to be totally custom app interfaces.

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        This is the same scheme as on Reddit, so supposedly you give upvote if the post fits the community, giving good discussion and downvote when don’t, even when you disagree But most people use it as like and dislike, as it’s more natural.

        The way that r/UnpopularOpinion was supposed to work was non-standard: you were supposed to upvote if and only if you disagreed.

        For much time I was thinking I hate web development, but couldn’t name it. Http is great, HTML is great, CSS is great, JS is great, REST API is great… etc. I hate two things: lack of clear JavaScript licences format and what Internet Explorer did to us which is monoculture and thinking we can hack text documents to be totally custom app interfaces.

        There’s one part of that I disagree with: Javascript is not great. It was hacked together in a week and it shows. To the extent that it’s usable, it’s only because devs were forced to waste millions upon millions of man-hours bolting shit on in an attempt to fix it after-the-fact.

        The world would’ve been much better off if Brandon Eich had fucked off and Mozilla had embedded Scheme or Python instead (which were, in fact, the other options being considered).