Hello everyone! First of all, I’d like to say thank you to every one of you for your support! Our community is about to be the first user-made one to reach 1K users/week on this instance. And our friends over at Ask Lemmy and Mildly Infuriating are following very closely, which is just as amazing!
We’re all working together to establish healthy communities and a friendly atmosphere here. And over at !NoStupidQuestions, we believe that all our members should have a say in what we do & how we do it.
Do you see anything wrong with our rules? Would you like anything removed and/or added? Do you think Rule 6 is useful and good for the community? Do you want a discord server or a matrix chat room?
Please feel free to ask any questions you might have & share your suggestions and ideas!
With Love,
!NoStupidQuestions Mod Team
Rule 2. Get rid of and/or and just use or. https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/effective-writing/what-about-andor/. I don’t feel like finding the section in Strunk’s Elements of Style.
Rule 8 suggested text: All comments must be relevant to their parent post or comment. Sometimes a comment can raise a topic worth discussing that isn’t related to the main post. It is easy enough to just collapse it if you aren’t interested.
No Discord. I would go old school and put up an IRC server or use Matrix.
Rule 6. I would require troll questions to be tagged instead of serious questions. Having to specify that you want to use the community for its intended purposes goes against the spirit of the idea that people can ask anything without fear of judgement.
I would get rid of rule 7. Positive communities could sway these individuals away from that stuff. Any bad behavior is already covered by the no sea lioning and no harassment rules.
Rule 7 has been updated to refer to hateful movements, rather than groups in general.
Rules 2 & 8 have been addressed along with some other updates to the draft.
We already have a matrix chat room.
On Rule 6, troll questions already require a tag, and they are only allowed on Friday.
Rule 7, we’d still like to keep extra measures to protect our members, as “swaying away” often happens too late.
Wow, thanks!
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.” - Friedrich Nietzsche
“Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a group that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of any other group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you you will be banned on sight.”
You would to ban the entire mod staff now, because you are a members of a group, No Stupid Questions moderators, that is advocating discriminating against another group of people, those that do the things in the aforementioned paragraph. Because you use ANY group of people, it applies. You are setting the mod team up in a situation to decide in groups and out groups.
Am I making sense?
I disagree. The moderator team is not a group known to largely hate or discriminate against any group of people. They’re the voice of !NoStupidQuestions. The mod team has a sole function of keeping the community subject to lemmy.world standards, and enforcing the rules of the community while keeping a friendly language all the way. That’s what it tries to be and that’s what it’s known as.
Enforcing rules is not discrimination, and there’s no one group that breaks rules. As stated many times, lemmy.world is not a free speech platform in a complete sense.
So, rather than deciding on in and out groups, it’s more like, “any groups outside of this area are allowed.” And somebody has to enforce that.
Except you are by having a rule that you can’t be a member of groups that the mod team thinks does.
The wording any group against any other group is so vague it literally applies to anyone. I am a US military veteran. They used to discriminate against women and homosexuals. When I was in, we were actively hunting the Taliban to capture or kill them. So should I be banned? Should Ukrainian soldiers be banned? They kill Russian soldiers. Pretty discriminating. By the way the rule is worded, I need banned, any Ukrainian soldiers here need banned. Everyone needs banned because everyone, by virtue of being a citizen of wherever is member of a group that has discriminated. I can’t vote in Australian elections, so they are discriminating against non Australian citizens.
Thought experiment. What if say, a kkk member is questioning their beliefs and genuinely curious about alternate viewpoints. Banning them just reinforces the idea that these “woke” people hate everyone that doesn’t agree with them.
You’re forgetting the part where it comes down to,
meaning, you are welcome to participate no matter who you are, unless you engage in hate speech against others. Hate speech which would be breaking our friendly atmosphere and disrupting other people’s experience.