• Ekky@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        352·
        10 days ago

        Element already has desktop streaming as an experimental feature. Worked fine last i tested it. Currently planning how to trick my social circle into using it.

        I also want to go check out the new TeamSpeak, it’s supposed to be a decent Discord alternative - Even though Discord originally replaced it.

        • KiwiTB@lemmy.world
          20·
          10 days ago

          That’s great news. Well now discord rewards users for viewing ads, it’s looking like time to leave soon.

            • Vinstaal0@feddit.nl
              3·
              9 days ago

              Discord was really good in the first couple years. Way better than the alternatives in almost everything except sound quality. And getting virusses wasn’t as easy as it was on TeamSpeak3 back then.

        • applemao@lemmy.world
          12·
          10 days ago

          Thats the thing…there’s no way ill convince people to get off discord now that they just got comfortable with it all.

            • applemao@lemmy.world
              51·
              10 days ago

              Yeah exactly or they just say we are trying to be superior and annoying tech autists xD

          • Vinstaal0@feddit.nl
            4·
            9 days ago

            I have been using Discord since the beginning in 2015 and back then I got people to Discord because it was cheap and offered more features. Currently the only way I convince people to swtich from Discord (or from Whatsapp) is either if they are privacy focussed or the alternative is way more convient or cheaper.

          • Ekky@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            2·
            10 days ago

            Element has audio issues on Linux? Didn’t notice it when I tested whether Matrix had what I needed (a month past). I’ll see if it screws up if I try again now.

            • ohshit604@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              1·
              10 days ago

              Audio doesn’t seem to stream over Element regardless of operating system, I’m on Debian 12 and my buddies are on Windows, neither stream audio.

              Also Mobile devices lack streaming out-right.

              • Ekky@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                2·
                10 days ago

                That’s weird. I just tested it with a friend (I’m on Endeavour, she’s on Win11, the server is VPS with Debian running the newest Synapse and Element-web). Audio works fine both ways with no mic config required, streaming is a little laggy when viewing the screen and stream next to each other, but that’s all.

                EDIT: No, you’re right. Audio within streams seem to fail. I remember Discord having the same problem (hence why I use Vesktop), but if Windows also suffers this shortcoming? I’m pretty sure I remember it working a month ago, so there should be a bug report in Synapse (or element).

    • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org
      24·
      10 days ago

      When you use the Discord app, you use a browser - Chromium specifically: Discord is an electro app.

      In other word, if you already run a browser that burns hundreds of megabytes of RAM, disk, and requires tons of CPU do display simplistic things, as browsers do, you might as well use it to access Discord instead of running a second insanely wasteful browser disguised as a native app.

    • henfredemars@infosec.pubEnglish
      62·
      10 days ago

      Discord has become really annoying to use with all the ads. I confine it to my browser because I don’t trust it.

      With that said, I used to run Flatpak version and it never had this issue.

    • Tyoda@lemm.ee
      2·
      10 days ago

      Recently, while it was “out of date” and refusing to run but not yet updated in the Arch repo, I started wondering why I don’t just use the website. I now use the website.

    • SorryQuick@lemmy.ca
      1·
      9 days ago

      When I do, audio slowly shifts to one ear only, perhaps over 20m. Then I have to leave the channel and come back to reset it. This does not happen anywhere else, and also doesn’t happen on the desktop app, so I have to use that.

    • gndagreborn@lemmy.world
      171·
      10 days ago

      Thank God im not the only one. I feel like I’m going crazy when all my friends do nothing but worship discord.

      • Gerudo@lemm.ee
        131·
        10 days ago

        Not at all. I loathe discord with a passion. I can’t understand how such a unintuitive piece of software gained such mainstream acceptance.

        • Redex@lemmy.world
          5·
          9 days ago

          What do you find unintuitive? Of all the complaints I personally never found it unintuitive to use.

          • Gerudo@lemm.ee
            2·
            9 days ago

            Everything? It’s hard to describe, but anytime I want to do anything, it just seems like the menu is in the wrong spot, or I have to jump through hoops to do what needs to get done.

            • QueriesQueried@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              11·
              9 days ago

              That would be from the 8 redesigns they’ve done in the past year or so. Not going to praise the dumpster fire, but intuitiveness has not been an issue for most of discords common uses. If you were incessantly messing with settings of a server though, that’d track.

              • Gerudo@lemm.ee
                2·
                9 days ago

                Oh, this is day one, I have loaded it up like once in the last year. I’m not the only one who says it either. Back in the day on reddit, I’d post about it and would always have tons of people agree.

                I can deal with Gimp and all kinds of alt versions of popular software all day long with minimal hassle learning new UI. Discord, for being the most popular software of its platform, for some reason, just doesn’t click for me. Why ventrillo didn’t keep the crown amazes me.

                I’ll just go back to being the old man yelling at the clouds.

      • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org
        74·
        9 days ago

        I fail to see Discord as anything other than IRC with too many emojis and primary colors for the short of attention span, implemented as a humongous pile of Web 2.0 nonsense, with Big Data surveillance built in.

        Privacy and resource comsumption issues notwithstanding, the few times I’ve had to use it to connect with people in certain communities that could basically only be found on Discord, it was unbearable to this gen-Xer: it’s just as fast and as shallow as IRC, but somehow I feel the extra symbolic and color overload would have triggered a seizure if I was epileptic. It’s maddering.

        Oh well, maybe I’m old.

        • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
          4·
          10 days ago

          My understanding is that the core appeal is that they provide free private VoIP service, which was something that a lot of people wanted for multiplayer games.

          I don’t use that, and like you, I have not been very impressed with their chat stuff.

        • xylol@leminal.space
          4·
          10 days ago

          I’ve never really seen that much color on it, but I use dark mode so its basically just dark gray and white font, we transitioned from slack a few years ago when I joined a community for drone stuff but over time people stopped flying drones and played games more

    • yeehaw@lemmy.ca
      10·
      9 days ago

      Wait seriously? Does this stop it from forcing me to update it when an update is available but it’s not in my package manager yet?

      • poinck@lemm.ee
        1·
        9 days ago

        Yes. I can confirm, it works even on Gentoo. But I stick to the Flatpak version, anyway, because there I was able to tell it to use Xwayland instead of wayland directly (through Flatseal).

        It seems the wayland support isn’t great yet and it tries to grab keys combination that are reserved for my window manager (Gnome). In the flatpak sandbox I don’t have any issues.

        Only game running game detection will not work in the sandbox.

        Or is there even a setting to tell it, using the X11 backend so that the keybind issues for the native version go away?

    • paequ2@lemmy.today
      19·
      10 days ago

      Yep. I didn’t realize the flatpak version worked better. I never get those manual update prompts anymore and Software Center automatically updates Discord when there are updates.

    • squinky@lemm.ee
      3·
      9 days ago

      Came here to say this. I was dealing with constant required .deb downloads and switched to flatpak. All the noise stopped.

    • Fisch@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      1·
      8 days ago

      I actually use the Vesktop Flatpak. It’s got working screen sharing with audio on Wayland (not sure if the official client has implemented that yet) and it has Vencord preinstalled for plugins and themes.

    • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.worldEnglish
      241·
      10 days ago

      It is so annoying when communities really want to have a discord. Particularly when they are somewhat technical and so any solutions that they might have are not search able.

    • DacoTaco@lemmy.world
      133·
      10 days ago

      The flatpak has (had?) Issues of not being able to stream application or desktop audio. The system package can and is way more up to date.
      Flatpak is not the solution to everything lol

      • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
        92·
        10 days ago

        That’s a wayland specific issue and I believe the Flatpack version was right behind the version that finally fixed that about 3 months ago. It should have the good version finally but I won’t bother to check.

        • DacoTaco@lemmy.world
          11·
          9 days ago

          Im not using wayland lol
          Too many issues in linux mint (cinnamon) last time i tried :')

      • KNova@infosec.pub
        2·
        10 days ago

        I believe the audio streaming issue on flatpak is resolved as of a month or two ago. But I’m typically with you, system packages for the most up to date experience in most cases.

      • boneyards@lemmy.world
        2·
        9 days ago

        Using the flatpak version on Fedora. That issue seems to be recently solved not sure when exactly just tried it the other day and it worked!

      • daggermoon@lemmy.world
        67·
        10 days ago

        I never said it was. The Discord Flatpak always worked for me. Not saying it didn’t for you, it just hasn’t been my experience.

  • Cossty@lemmy.world
    47·
    9 days ago

    If you really need to use discord, use the flatpak version or better yet, use Vesktop.

  • ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org
    272·
    10 days ago

    check out vencord (or vesktop) just in time for discord to completely enshittify. while you’re looking, consider something like revolt chat instead?

    • Colloidal@programming.dev
      3·
      10 days ago

      Oh that looks nice! I was using Dissent which is very light on resources but I kept running on a couple issues. I’ll try that.

      • Kyouki@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        10 days ago

        Another one I can recommend is equibop (web version wrap of Discord) and equicord (discord client modification with vencord)

    • germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      1·
      10 days ago

      Since the latest big discord update I had issues with Vesktop, other people could only watch my streams if they were in it when I started streaming and even then it usually would break after a few minutes. But I might try it again in the next few days to see if it got fixed

      Edit: I quickly checked the GitHub repo and the latest release was 2 months ago so probably not :(

    • xttweaponttx@sh.itjust.works
      1·
      9 days ago

      Revolt is still extremely beta, at least last I checked it out?

      Vesktop (on flatpak I believe) is just a discord wrapper with plugin support, actually a really great experience!!

      Still, here’s hoping literally any FOSS discord clone gets fully off the ground sometime soon. The enshitification is so fucking real.